Wednesday, October 8, 2008

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digmen1 -

Hi xentropic

I am stratring to teach myself to write basic Chinese.

You will imagine what a marvelous tool your pop up sounds !

I have installed it.

But like the others I need the CEDICT.

I think you should mention this in your description of your program and provide a link to where we
can get it and how we should install it and where, and which version we should download as there
seem to be 3 versions.

Thank you

Kind Regards

Digby
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necroflux -

I made this post in one of the other threads that got deleted, but:

1.01 doesn't require any dictionaries installed, so no worries about that. This extension is
incredible, it's simple and fast. That said the dictionary that is included could use some work in
order for the extension to reach its full potential. I'll see if I can't help work on the
extension.

In any case this is a must have extension already, even with the dictionary issues. Very useful
stuff.










gato -

I have the extension working, and it is indeed very fast. I haven't tried it out fully yet, but if
the dictionary is incomplete, maybe you get the Adsotrans dictionary adapted for it. The Adso
dictionary uses the CEDICT dictionary as one of its bases, I believe.

http://www. /showth...ghlight=source
Adso dictionary : open source?
http://www.adsotrans.com/










xentropic -

first, if anyone has download the first version i posted it wont work, so get the one that finally
is posted on mozilla (ver 0.1.1) which will work fine. it has the CEDICT file included

yea if theres more dictionaries it would be easy to add them to the search, even without the
entries you can usually figure out the meaning from going character by character, but ill see what
else is out there










atitarev -

Xentropic,

I PM'ed you. My setup is not working.

Gato, please tell me what you did and how start up this extension.

I also have Rikaichan, maybe that's why it's not working, I don't see it in the tools or context
menus.










gato -

atitarev, xentropic said that since his extension is modified from rikaichan, it can't currently
coexist with rikaichan due to resource name conflicts. But he's working on correcting that for the
next release. He said you can work around this for the moment by creating a new profile for
Firefox.










atitarev -

Thanks, Gato. I thought the message was related to version 1.0.










flameproof -

I just installed and tried 0.1.1.

It works perfectly. Did only do a short test so far. Just hat to install from the mozilla site and
nothing else.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3349/

Well done!










flameproof -

ok, not that i want to promote my own posting....... but...

I had a look here:

http://www. /showthread.php?t=12706

Post #6 by Quest was:

....
黐线,.....
....

黐 gives some sort of japanese pop up. I can do a screenshot if you can't get the same result.

But not a big issue though....










nubix -

xentropic, thank you, it is very useful.












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Tuesday, October 7, 2008

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alenehan -

I thought you may like to see this. It is a very long (5m) scroll that seems to be a procesion of
characters and monsters from mythology (as well as lots I don't recognise.) I would love to know
what you all think. I have been unable to fully translate the text. As you can imagine the photos
attached don't show the whole scroll so if you are interested in seeing the full thing have a look
here:

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skylee -

百鬼夜行 (ひゃっきやぎょう / hyakkiyagyo) is japanese mythology and the painting is
japanese.



Quote:

Hyaki-yakou : Nightly parade of one hundred demons. A common theme of Japanese art and literature,
starting the Heian period. A 14th century scroll of this subject is noted for its horrid contents.
A good example is the work of Toriyama Sekien.. Toriyama frequently painted ghosts, demons and
goblins, collecting them in illustrated books such as Hyakkiyagyo (One Hundred Ghosts) and Zoku
Hyakki.

After Toriyama came Hokusai, Yoshitoshi and Utagawa. The Meiji Era boasted of Kyosai Kawanabe
(1831~1839) an outstanding ghost painter, who created “Gyosai Hyakki Gadan” published
posthumously.

A hyaki-yagyō is a scroll depicting this parade of demons, starting with the 14th century scroll
in Shinju Temple, Kyoto. Many of the demons are mononoke spirit-infested inanimate objects,
especially discarded kitchen implements or containers returning to haunt the home that cast them
out.

source












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Monday, October 6, 2008

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Alissia -

Hi, I'm a student majoring Enlish. I want to find a native Enlish speaker as my language partner,
and I can improve your Chinese in return.I study in CUGB(China University of Geosciences)near
Wudaokou and across from BLCU(Beijing Language and Culture University). So anyone who studies in
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Sorry I have given the wrong Email .It should be celeryfar@hotmail.com












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Sunday, October 5, 2008

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Hero Doug -

Just came across this article, wondering if I could have some feedback from others about it.

http://asia.elliottback.com/archives...ren-vs-laowai/

I've personally never come across the term myself, I always hear waiguoren.

I've been told it's a very contexual word like Nigger (Not to offend anyone). It can be extremly
rude, or not, depending on how, and mainly who uses it.



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dalaowai -

I think that foreigners in China are very sensitive to the term "laowai", especially when the
laowai is living in a rural area.

I remember living in rural Zhejiang and feeling very discriminated against on a daily basis. To
add insult to injury, in most cases where I was being discriminated, the term laowai flew about
quite freely.

I no longer feel offended by the term, as I will quite bluntly refer to those individuals as
"xiangxiaren" or "waidiren".

But yeah, a lot of foreigners hate the use of this term, as it's often used to stereotype or
discriminate against non-asian foreigners.










xichg -

i am wondering which is worse, being call 'laowai' in china and being called 'alien' in the states.










Qcash3 -

When I was in China I never heard the term Laowai, but then again I didn't know what it was at the
time so I probably didn't pay attention to it. In my case, the locals were so shocked to see a
black American , that they spent their breath wondering aloud if I was really from America or
Africa, and forgot to throw LaoWai out there . Since I am going back in a few weeks I will keep my
ears open for the term, but I don't think it will bother me too much.










daxia -

I live in Southern China and I guess the people here are especially rude. Being called LaoWai is
nothing. 鬼老 is allot worse and I hear it everyday.

Allthough, I have started to reply with "东亚病夫" which the Chinese DON'T like to be called.
This has almost gotten me into 3 fights recently, and it's not very smart to start a fight on the
street in China because you can be sure that the chinese guy you are fighting with will have 20
friends nearby that will help him.










roddy -



Quote:

i am wondering which is worse, being call 'laowai' in china and being called 'alien' in the states.

Or indeed in China. Did you have a point?

I've heard laowai used with nothing but respect, and waiguoren used with a mouthful of contempt.
As far as I'm concerned it's the attitude of the speaker that counts. Neither, for me, are loaded
terms. The use of 外国朋友 though . . .










woliveri -

I hear LaoWai all the time here in Shanghai and it doesn't bother me a bit. In fact, when I hear
it I sometimes just reply back in Chinese, "wo bu shi laowai, wo shi zhongguo ren" with a smile
and be on my way.

What pisses me off way, way more than being called Laowai is people cutting in front of me while
I'm politely waiting in line. For that I've nearly been ready to confront someone.

But I don't and just put it with it realizing that it's done to everyone here regardless of race.

So for the most part, I'm getting over the line cutting now too (I think).










gato -

老 (Lao)-something is usually used as a term of endearment, such as in 老张、老李 (or at
worst as a kind of joke, i.e. referring to Mao Zedong as 老毛). I agree it's a bit xenophobic to
focus on the 外, but then 外国人 is no better in that regard.

A really derogatory term would be something like 鬼子, or 小日本 which is often used against
the Japanese.










Long Zhiren -

There are derogatory terms as mentioned before.

However, the 老 terms aren't exactly derogatory, more endearing as said before. If you think that
老外 is a problem, you need to address all of these other informal terms (they're all used like
tongue-in-cheek nicknames):
老头 old guy
老婆 wife (I rib my wife with this all the time.)
老公 husband (My wife ribs me all the time with this.)
老白 white guy
老黑 black guy
老黃 yellow guy
老中 Chinese guy
老大 oldest sibling
老幼 youngest sibling
米老鼠 Mickey Mouse
唐老鸭 Donald Duck

Exept for the wife term, I've only encountered these terms applying to males. Females don't get
老...

Now if you replace 老 with 肥, 豬, etc then you've got problems... Then, once the 蛋 words
start showing up, you've got more problems.










bhchao -

Laowai is used commonplace in the states where there is a mixing of Asian and Caucasian residents.
I hear it used often in the presence of the latter, with no negative effect.

大佬粗 used to be a compliment during the Mao Zedong era. Of course that could be less so today.












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Saturday, October 4, 2008

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rrobertscv -

I am new to this forum and am searching for information on this item, I am a militaria collector
and came across this today, any help would be appreciated. This came from the estate of a 91 year
old lady here in the town where I live. Before she died, she said her husband picked it up while
he was overseas in the military, 60-70 years ago. Could someone please tell me what it is, what it
says and what its value might be? Thanks for any help at all.







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semantic nuance -

2. 勝利-victory
3. 蔣--Chinese surname

Hope it helps!










889 -

Well, 蔣 is not just any Chinese surname.

It's Jiang as in Jiang Jieshi, more commonly known as Chiang Kai-shek.

So this looks like a victory talisman.

Not that it did much good.










kudra -

@ rrobertscv

can you give us a close up of the writing in the box. I can make out AHMONG, and Shanghai China.
The rest might give more clues.










Raye Zhang -

it looks like a model of traditional Chinese coin, Spring & Autume or Qin Dynasty.
from the print in the box cover, it should be made in Shanghai province.










rrobertscv -

Thanks for the help so far. I will scan a close-up of the box tonight and post it.










rrobertscv -

Here is a close-up of the box.












Raye Zhang -

Shanghai,China
海Tel****上------------上海=Shanghai,a famous province in China
製光仲豪---------------it must be red from the right to the left "豪仲光製", 豪仲光 is
a company`s name,製 means MAKE,so these four letters say that
[this coin is made by 豪仲光 Company]










skylee -

Considering the "Ah Mong", could it be 蒙 instead of 豪 ?










Raye Zhang -

i cannot see it clearly,perhaps it is 蒙.
but the meanning of 蒙is not so nice for a company name,豪 is often found in names












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Friday, October 3, 2008

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Prodigal Son -

sucks to be you, dude. I guess that's what happens when you get something that you can't read
permanenly printed on yourself?



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Joffrie -

Hi,
Well, I am sure it is 弹, which does mean to play an instrument like guitar or piano not violin.
However, as a single character, like single word "make" in English, it does not have one single
and simple meaning.
As a verb, it may also mean to shoot [pebbles (as with a catapult)], or to flick or flip (ash), or
accuse/impeach.
It also means be elastic; spring/bounce/leap; and even shed (tears).
As a noun, it could mean ball or bullet.










trien27 -

弓 meaning "bow" as in "bow and arrow", belong together with the partial character, it's function
is: "you pluck an instrument like you are plucking the string on a bow". Use some imagination, and
you will get the original meaning to most Chinese characters. Now, without the bow, you can never
play the instrument: like a guitar or violin[my use of these instruments illustrates the "plucking
on a bow string" concept similarly employed while playing/ learning to play these instruments]!












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Thursday, October 2, 2008

HSK Exam - Western food you miss -








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adrianlondon -

I'm mainly focussed on food I can get here in the UK, but all are welcome to this thread of course!

I plan on being in Beijing from September for 6 months. What food should I eat during the next two
months to ensure I don't get homesick?

I already plan on eating many, many "full English" breakfasts, fish & chips and that british
staple : (Indian) curry.

I'd add kebabs onto the list, but I had a lovely lamb kebab in Beijing when I was there last year,
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johnd -

Cream cakes and puddings! But don't get too fat before you come, because you'll find lots of new
favourites once you get to China.










yonitabonita -

My good cravings are so bad anyone would think I was pregnant. Off the top of my head:

1. gourmet sausages with rosemary etc.

2. fresh pesto. Any pesto.

3. real bread. With real grains and no sugar.

4. good pizza. Baked in a traditional oven, on a pizza base that's not got sugar.

5. gorgonzola, parmesan, brie, camembert, peccorino, goats cheese on crackers.

6. cheese cake, chocolate mud cake, creme brulee, chocolate eclaire

7. meat pie

8. chicken sandwich from the German stand on Portobello Rd. on Sunday










dalaowai -

Strangely enough, I have to say that I miss Chinese-food from back home. The Chinese in China
don't prepare chinese food the same way as they do in Canada.










Prodigal Son -

1. In-N-Out
2. Chipotle

why did you have to bring this up










imron -

Cheese, cheese and more cheese.

BTW, Yonitabonita, Annie's in Beijing has great pesto.










roddy -

Man, I wasn't missing anything until yonitabonita gave me so many ideas. . .










adrianlondon -

Sory for making you all feel bad

Asian cuisine is my favourite anyway, so I won't actually miss the food as I'll be too busy
stuffing my face in Beijing. London's Chinatown isn't bad, and it's slowly getting more
china-chinese as the HK staff move on to other stuff and people from the mainland take their place.

I'm wondering if I'd miss light food; such as salads, lightly cooked fish, a rare steak & chips
etc. Of course, it's all replicable and no doubt Beijing will continue to open up new places.










venture160 -

I giant Italian sub over-loaded with veggies
12" super greasy Greek pizza
a good Chicken Parm
Grilling on my back porch
good fresh veggies
my moms Lasanga

I haven't been home in 13 months.










adrianlondon -

Good fresh veg? You just don't know where to shop!

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